Richard is old enough (LOL) to have acquired a great perspective around the changes that have taken place. Instead of compliance, outcomes and use cases are discussed more often now and have a flavor around the business / mission.. While brand image is still important, availability of services (can we say Ransomeware) is critical. While M&A continues onward the ability to spin off or acquire organizations requires a better segmentation and security approach. 3rd Party Vendor/Supplier/Partner is now being discussed along with Supply Chain Management. The CISO is more business focused, and the new titles are Privacy Officer and/or Trust Officer. Will be interested in your thoughts and insights. Jeff